St. Mark New Pastor - Phillip Pointer
Pastor Phillip Pointer is St. Mark New Pastor
It is no surprise that Phillip Pointer was chosen to pastor St. Mark. He was the only candidate who had experience of converting a traditional Baptist Church into a Full Gospel (COGIC) church. He will continue the conversion from traditional baptist to Full Gospel (COGIC) started by Steven Arnold and the teaching of British Israel. (Aryans Jews are God Chosen people)
Based on the tenants of Full Gospel and Phillip Pointer's on-line college degree - he will promote the diabolical Luciferian rapture doctrine, eternal security, and the new age prosperity religion.
Is St. Mark New Pastor a swindler, crook, con-man, or just a religious agent for the powers of this world?
If what is former members are saying about him is true, shouldn't he be behind bars at Laurel Hill Correctional facility than behind the pulpit at St. Mark?
St. Mark should had contacted Department of correction for applicants. They have plenty of con-artist who received on-line college degrees are just as qualify to steal assets of the church and swindle the members.I have some serious questions.
1. Did the Elders of St. Mark know of his devious acts at St. John Baptist?
2. Are the Elders part of the conspiracy?
3. What is the Elders agenda?
4. Why did they invite Pointer to St. Mark?
5. Are the elders looking at the spiritual welfare of the church members or what they can financially gain by having a pastor with experience of stealing church assets and running off the older members?
6. Are the Elders part of the Luciferian Masonic Cult?
7. Is the elders hoping to sell St. Mark property to UAMS or the Research park?
St. John Baptist vs. Phillip Pointer
The Members Lawsuit:
Members of St. John's Congregation wrote a brief history of the church in Alexandria. According to that history, the “St. John Mission” was formed on N. Alfred St. in 1925. Later that year, Deacon David Askew, the chairman of the Deacon Board, wrote letters to 13 churches asking that the mission be made a church. The council approved and in 1926 the mission became the St. John Baptist Church. The church quickly grew, enough that it was able to purchase the current building, dilapidated at the time, and remodeled it. In 1948 the renovation was complete. Later, in 1973, numerous renovations were made. An educational building and a kitchen with a separate dining area were built then, and 10 years later, after the congregation had outgrown the original capacity, a 100-seat addition was built. In 1993, the church finally convinced the City of Alexandria to sell them the parking lot behind the church.
The Split
The Great Imposter - Is he a swindler or con man?
Providence St. John's pastor Phillip L. Pointer. (Image from www.psjbc.org)
Pointer, however, felt differently. After he was appointed pastor, he also named himself CEO. According to evidence submitted in the ongoing civil case, the church’s new Constitution gave Pointer total authority. However, the trustees were the only ones recognized in court as owners of the property. Pointer announced that St. John’s would be merging with Providence Baptist Church in Upper Marlboro, Md., a failing church run by his grandfather. The group of trustees led by Diggs alleges that Pointer gave the pastor of that church, his grandfather, a “generous retirement package” and also
failed in his promise to maintain and operate St. John’s in Alexandria. Additionally, sources confirmed that Pointer had put up the church and Providence Baptist as collateral in order to obtain a $1.8 million mortgage on the property in Maryland. Pointer refused to comment for this article, citing his lawyer’s advice.
“We elected the pastor for St. John’s, not for this church in Upper Marlboro,” Diggs said. “I understand he wants to help his granddaddy, and as Christians we are supposed to help people, but not at the expense of 80 other parishioners.”
The Civil Case
Services have stopped being held at the church because the group led by Pointer and Traverse Gray, Sr. is attempting
Members of St. John's Congregation are now holding services at Charles Houston Rec Center. (Photo: Alex Hampl)
“The corporation that transferred the deed to Providence St. John’s was not the owner of the property at that time,” said Horace McClerkin, the lead counsel for the Diggs group. “The trustees were the owner of the property, and they do not have the authority to transfer the property without church approval.”
“He [Pointer] just decided he could sign all the papers,” said Diggs. “But it’ll play out in court. It’s just not good for St. John’s, period.”
The case went to court when the Diggs group filed an injunction against Pointer after the pastor had removed all of the church’s property and moved it to Providence Baptist in Maryland. “They removed all the church’s assets, which is why we filed the injunction to begin with,” said McClerkin.
The Pointer group motioned to have the injunction dissolved, and the judge agreed, unless Diggs and the trustees could post a $1.4 million dollar bond, a somewhat unusual measure.
“I believe the burden is not on the trustees and the fiduciaries in this case to put up the million dollar bond,” McClerkin said. “The trustees are the owners of the property.”
Diggs went further, saying, “A bond was not needed and never had been installed in a case in Virginia.”
McClerkin said that he has been “aggressively” pursuing discovery and has served an interrogatory request, but his requests have gone unanswered. “It’s very difficult to respond to a request for documents when you don’t have the documents and you know you don’t have them,” he said.
Diggs added, “They have had 60 days to respond to discovery and they haven’t at all. They seem to think they’re above the law.”
McClerkin did not seem optimistic about a settlement between the sides, given the lack of response from the Pointer camp thus far. “Unless they’re willing to return all the property they took and basically undo everything, I don’t really see settlement as an option,” he said. “It’s really too early to talk about it though, anything can happen.”
Potential Buyers
The sale of the church is currently at a stand-off and not just because of the disputed ownership and the pending court case. According to sources, Pointer’s group approached developer Eakin/Youngentob about selling the property, valued in 2011 at $303,419. EYA is the developer that has partnered with Alexandria Redevelopment Housing Authority to build Alexandria’s newest public housing units, many of which are mixed in with the developer’s market-rate town houses in Old Town. Specifically, Eakin/Youngentob just redeveloped the James Bland and James Bland Addition Projects into a mixture of public housing and market rate units, known as the Old Town Commons. In essence the EYA – ARHA partnership controls all the property immediately surrounding the church. According to sources, ARHA was approached by E/Y about developing on the church property but declined to get involved in the church’s ongoing struggle. EYA also had preliminary discussions with Alexandria Capital Planning Staff, who also advised them that there would be difficulties in tearing down the church. EYA now has no plans to move forward with the church property.
To make matters more complicated, St. John’s sits in the heart of the Parker Gray Historic District and is protected by the Parker Gray Board of Architectural Review. Any potential buyer would face the hurdle of having the church designated as an historic site by the Board, thus preventing its demolition. The building itself has always been valued by the City at $0, and it could be deemed a historic site. This has led to the current situation where buyers are wary of the property until after the ownership case is resolved, and even then if the Pointer group is allowed to sell the property, the church may still be protected.
In the Meantime
For now, much of the St. John’s congregation has continued to hold services at Charles Houston, led by minister Charles Hall. (As of Jan.2013 St. John Baptist is meeting at the Lee Recreational Center on Jefferson. They are looking for a church building to call home since they were evicted by Pointer and his group. Pastor Hall is regathering the flock that was scattered by Pointer.) It is still unusual for the parishioners, and it is impossible to not be distracted. Still, despite all the acrimony over the cancellation of services at the church and the subsequent injunction, Diggs and the others haven’t forgotten the root of their disagreement – faith.
“There are no bad people on either side,”
What are the members and people from St. John saying Phillip Pointer?
March 11, 2012
St Mark Pastor Search in Review:
Here we go again.
A few months ago the elders asked the church to pray and fast for three days on the two candidates that the search committee had as their finalist after a year long search. It had been a while since I had fasted for three days but decided to go along with the program. The result of the corporate fast was one name. WOW the church-wide fast worked. God had answered St. Mark’s prayers. But wait…a few on the elders committee decided to over ruled God’s answer to St. Mark’s prayers.
Here we go again..
Did God answer the prayers of St. Mark the first time?
I would like to commend the nominating committee for doing an excellent job, unfortunately their tiring efforts are in vain. Their work is only a facade. Their real choice and the people choice will never get pass the controller or the elders who are serving as illuminati agents.
Two of the current candidates are traditional baptist ministers. They are well qualified to pastor a traditional baptist church but St. Mark constitution call for a pastor who is an Illuminati religious agent. The pastor that the illuminati and the elders will choose will be successful in hijacking traditional Baptist churches and turning them over to Full Gospel. Full Gospel is a branch of The Church of God in Christ. C.H. Mason alleged founder of COGIC received the name and doctrine from Charles Fox Parham (founder of KKK West Coast, founder of Assemblies of God, Grand-master of Freemason) Parham believed in Anglo Israelism or the Anglo European is God’s chosen people. Parham was also a disciple of Albert Pike who worshiped Lucifer as his God. Thus you have COGIC and Full Gospel teaching the Luciferian Rapture Doctrine. Although this doctrine is taught in Southern Baptist Churches and seminaries, it was not the teaching of traditional Black Baptist Convention Churches.
He will believe and teach Anglo Israelism (British Israel -Rapture) and they will promote the COGIC and Illuminati agenda. The question is who will make the best over-seer. The master of the plantation usually chose the Negro that was best suited in keeping the other Negros on the plantation in check. The master controlled what the HNIC thought and what he taught. What the master controller feared most was an independent thinking black man.
Only one candidate is qualified to be the Illuminati religious agent of St. Mark. He received his undergraduate college degree through the mail or correspondence school. He will be the next Bishop.
The other two candidates are for show.
St. Mark constitution forbid any other minister to be a senior pastor other than a hijacker who will be under complete control of the Illuminati kabal.
Who is the controller of St. Mark?
Whose constitution should St. Mark follow, God’s or Man’s?
Is St. Mark God’s Church or does it belongs to the Illuminati?
Did God answer St. Mark’s prayers the first time?
Look what St. Mark received by not following God's directionPhillip Pointer swindles St. John Baptist Church in Alexandria VA
St. John Baptist vs. Phillip Pointer Lawsuit
The History
Members of St. John's Congregation wrote a brief history of the church in Alexandria. According to that history, the “St. John Mission” was formed on N. Alfred St. in 1925. Later that year, Deacon David Askew, the chairman of the Deacon Board, wrote letters to 13 churches asking that the mission be made a church. The council approved and in 1926 the mission became the St. John Baptist Church. The church quickly grew, enough that it was able to purchase the current building, dilapidated at the time, and remodeled it. In 1948 the renovation was complete. Later, in 1973, numerous renovations were made. An educational building and a kitchen with a separate dining area were built then, and 10 years later, after the congregation had outgrown the original capacity, a 100-seat addition was built. In 1993, the church finally convinced the City of Alexandria to sell them the parking lot behind the church.
The Split
October 17, 2011
St. Mark Elders Actions
At a special called meeting on October 15, 2011, it was announced that St. Mark will maintain the current status quo: the church will continue to function without a senior pastor and the Board of Elders will maintain full control of the church. The members were asked to suggest names for a senior pastor.
Back to square one.
Prior to the called meeting the search committee presented the final results of their year long search and tens of thousands of dollars spent for a new pastor. The name of Pastor Vincent Windrow was presented to Lamar Bailey (God-Father) and the Board of Elders to present to the church body, but three elders rejected the name in order to maintain their power, current salaries, and keep the illuminati agenda intact.
Prior to the called meeting the search committee presented the final results of their year long search and tens of thousands of dollars spent for a new pastor. The name of Pastor Vincent Windrow was presented to Lamar Bailey (God-Father) and the Board of Elders to present to the church body, but three elders rejected the name in order to maintain their power, current salaries, and keep the illuminati agenda intact.
According to the current constitution, the name of the search committee should have been presented to the members for a vote. This was not done.
The action of the Board of Elders was not in harmony with St. Mark's current constitution, nor the will of the people and it is hard to see God's will in their action, but their action is in complete harmony with the will of the Jesuits/Illuminati cabal.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
St. Mark Board of Elders grossly abused their power and authority. They reveled their true colors.
1 Corinthians 14:33
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
The Board of Elders rejecting the search committee recommendation caused serious damage the reputation of St. Mark.
The action of the Board of Elders was unconstitutional and illegal.
It was an absolute violation and breach of the governing by-laws.
The action of the board showed contempt to the process, blatant disregard to the will of the church membership and most of all the action of the Board of Elders showed shameful disrespect to all the ministers who applied for the position. Their action will cost St. Mark millions of dollars in lost offerings as well as making the church liable to court litigation.
A restart of the process would allow the church elders to retain control of the church for maybe another year or until the search committee present a name that the board could easily control. The concept of the board of elders is foreign to the constitution of The Baptist Convention or Missionary Baptist. The concept of Board of Elders is part of the Full Gospel and COGIC organizational structure.
The root of the problem at St. Mark is their constitution.
The current constitution does not allow a pastor outside of the Illuminati sponsor Full Gospel (COGIC) to be accepted by the board of elder as senior pastor. It allow for only an illuminati trained minister to serve as senior pastor. The current constitution is a chaotic mixture of Baptist and COGIC (Full Gospel) but mostly COGIC.
The board is made up of elders picked by the previous pastor who was a COGIC minister and ordained as a COGIC Bishop. Every bishop regardless of denomination is sponsor and supported by the Illuminati. St Mark Board of Elders was hand pick by an Illuminati sponsor minister.
In essence the current constitution was formulated by Illuminati religious agents. It is the foundation for Illuminati control of St. Mark Baptist.
St. Mark must decide if they are a Baptist church or an Illuminati sponsor Full gospel (COGIC) church. If they are a Baptist church, St. Mark must formulate and adopt a new constitution and by-law.
St Mark need to change their name to St. Mark Church of God in Christ or St Mark Full Gospel if they keep the current constitution.
The current constitution is unworkable in a Baptist church. 9-11-2011
9-4-2011
Pastor Vincent Windrow Sermon Clip - St. Mark Baptist Church
Pastor Benjamin T. Hailey Sr. received his education in the Steelton-Highspire School system, matriculating to the University of Cincinnati where he graduated with a Liberal Arts Degree. Pastor Hailey has studied at some of the top Illuminati schools including Moody Bible Institute, Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University and Palmer Theological Seminary. Pastor Hailey has the credentials to bring St. Mark under complete illuminati control and promote the illuminati agenda.
Pastor Vincent Winthrop appears to be unblemished by fraternal organizations or tainted by the illuminati. He is a Kingdom builder. The following is on the pastor page of his church’s web page:
“ He is our pastor; and we love him. We immediately fell in love with his friendly and positive personality back in 1994 when he was added to the church. Even then, we knew that there was something special about him. He enthusiastically began serving as an usher—he’ll often mention that he was inducted into the Usher Hall of Fame because of his all-star career, but we can’t seem to locate the whereabouts of such a place.
We watched with joy as he married Stacy Bowler in 1995. As a matter of fact, our full choir sang at the wedding, which was unheard of back then. Even then, we noticed that he was quick to draw the circle wider to include other people without fear of being ridiculed.
We watched with surprise as he strode to the pulpit to announce that he had accepted his calling into the Gospel Ministry. We didn’t know who our pastor was introducing, but we sat with mouths wide open as we saw him stride from his usher’s post. Even then, he was following the voice of God for both his and our lives.
We watched with both admiration and anticipation when he was ordained in 1997 and became our church’s 12thpastor in 1999. Even then, we trusted his leadership and believed that God was guiding him to lead us into the next millennium. And what a millennium it has been with him as our pastor!
We’ll let history teach future generations about the building projects, land acquisitions, successful second location, great music projects, multiple mission trips, extensive outreach efforts, mentoring other ministers, multiple degrees, expanded ministries, enrichment conferences, thousands of added members, and strengthened infrastructure. We appreciate those types of evidence of his leadership and God’s guidance, but we prefer to talk about our pastor the person.
For nearly fifteen years, he has remained as grounded and loveable as he was when he first arrived as a young man searching for a place to call home. His success as an entrepreneur was never gloated about. His accomplishments as a writer were never bragged about. He has stayed true to his calling and personality. He has remained a “stay at home” shepherd and never wandered out on the preachers’ circuit to become a celebrity as he certainly could have. “
1 John 2:15-16
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Matthew 16:24 If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 25For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
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1Tim.3:1This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desires a good work.
2A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behavior, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4One that rules well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
5(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
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Bishop Steven M. Arnold, former pastor of St. Mark Baptist Church, who resigned amid some personal difficulties recently from the West 12th Street megachurch? After several meetings with sympathetic churchgoers, it appears Arnold has decided to go out on his own and start a new church — Grace Temple.
Grace Temple service is at Sunday 8 a.m. and 11:00 a.m.
(new location)
4217 So. Shackleford Rd
Arnold's new church will have the same Illuminati support that TD Jakes, Happy Caldwell, Silas Johnson, Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long and a host of other Illuminati religious agents are receiving.
Update: Bishop Arnold seeking to be reinstated.and using the Illuminati back $16 million loan as laverage, asked St. Mark to re-instate him as their pastor. St. Mark decided that Spiritual growth was more important than having him as their pastor and the $16 million loan. Money can not buy Spiritual growth. The Board of Elders felt that it was best for the church and the Kingdom of God to say farewell to Bishop Steven Arnold. They did give him $1,000,000 severance pay.
Arnold's resignation did not have the Illuminati blessings.
Bishop Arnold resignation was requested by the Board of Elders at St. Mark who were concern about the spiritual condition of their Pastor and St. Mark.
The actions of the Board of Elders at St. Mark were in harmony with The Word of God.
Bishops Defined:
Bishops are Illuminati agents and are not subject to the same standards as regular ministers of God.
Bishops are high ranking state or government officials whose main job is to control the parishioners for the Illuminati and promote the Illuminati agenda.
The Illuminati will give bishops their financial and political support.
(Ex. Bishop Eddie Long church can not fire him regardless of his corruption and gross immorality. The Illuminati built New Birth, they own the church and completely control Eddie Long.)
Bishop Arnold resigned before the Illuminati got complete control of St. Mark.
Steve Arnold was raised in the Church of God in Christ Church and said that he will always be COGIC. The COGIC has always played a major role in promoting the Rothschild/Illuminati agenda especially Christian Zionism (British Israel) and the Luciferian Rapture doctrine.
Bishop Arnold was given sound Godly advice by his spiritual father but chose to take the advice of politicians and Illuminati religious agents and start a new church. Grace Temple will be according to worldly standards a very successful church and will become the sister church of New Birth in Atlanta. The church will grow numerically but the member’s spiritual growth will be questionable. Will Arnold become another Bishop Long? Power, money and sex are Eddie Long passion and the foundation of his church.
Will power, money and sex become Arnold's passion?
Did Bishop Arnold do the right thing by not taking the advice of his spiritual father who told him to set down for a year and to work on his spiritual life?
Arnold does not have the spiritual blessings of his spiritual father but he has the blessings of the Illuminati.
Revelation chapter 2 tells us of the Nicolaitans. The Nicolaitans taught that the deeds of the flash have nothing to do with ones salvation. Christians were free to do as they please because grace will always cover them. Nicolaitans advocated sexual freedom. Will Arnold and his Grace Temple Church follow in the footsteps of a Nicolaitan Church? Arnold will have the support of the Illuminati financial and political apparatus as well the Illuminati vast media empire at his disposal. The Illuminati doesn't care about their religious agents moral corruption only about their ability to control the blind sheep of their congregation, get their money, and preach error effectively.
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The Board of Elders at Little Rock's St. Mark Baptist Church has revealed
more information about the departure of its senior pastor, Bishop Steven Arnold.
In a news release this afternoon, the church said Arnold "tendered his
resignation to the Board of Elders after admitting to an inappropriate
relationship with a female parishioner."
"It is with a heavy heart that we accept the resignation of our pastor.
Under his leadership, we have experienced tremendous growth,
both spiritually and numerically. We love and deeply appreciate
all that he has done through God's enablement these past 21 years.
In our efforts to curtail speculation and gossip,
the Board of Elders made the decision to be more specific about what
led to Bishop Arnold's resignation. But out of respect and sensitivity to
the families and all that are involved, we will not release any more information
other than this. We prayerfully hope that the public will show the same
respect and be considerate of the feelings of family members and our
church during this difficult time," Elder Lamarr Bailey said in the news release.
On Sunday, Arnold asked for forgiveness from his 6,700-member strong
congregation saying only that there was an 'indiscretion.'
It was also revealed in this afternoon's news release that the church's
Board of Elders had accepted Arnold's resignation on Sunday.
The board says church leaders are preparing for a closed meeting with
St. Mark's members to discuss the situation and its plans to move forward.
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Bishop Steven Arnold, who resigned Sunday as senior pastor of megachurch St. Mark Baptist, are organizing a rally in his support this week. I've sent a note to the reported lead organizer, but if you know anything more, let me know.
UPDATE: An employee at Dunbar Community Center said a room had been reserved there late this afternoon for what was described as a meeting of St. Mark members, but it's not a public rally. If the group is meeting away from the church, however, it seems safe to presume it's a group with a different view of Arnold's departure. My source said Sen. Tracy Steele, who's close to Arnold, was working to organize the meeting. He has not returned a message asking for information.
UPDATE II: The controversy has cost Arnold another part-time job. He's resigned as a member of the board of Bank of the Ozarks, which paid about $20,000 a year.
UPDATE III: A friend of Arnold's confirms to me that Steele is organizing tonight's meeting. The strategy is to build support for a call that the elders consider asking for an expression from the congregation on whether Arnold's resignation should be accepted or not. Among his supporters, his friend said, there's a feeling that he has apologized and should be forgiven, particularly with the implications for the church should he depart. If there's a strong sentiment against Arnold's return, he likely won't, the friend said.
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This is becoming a sad scenario. What's at stake? This is exactly what the Bishop should be asking his self. He alone is responsible for how this play's out. He needs to take responsibilty for what he's done, and step down, take some time-off, and reflect. He needs to know that he is hurting his congregation by not stepping down. He still is influential and can tell his members to stop any rallies, meeting, etc. It's over, I'm done, and if by chance God allows me back in leadership, I will be grateful. But, Bishop be gracious and man enough to do the right thing, step down and silence yourself.
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Heck, I think ya'll are overlooking the most important aspect of this whole debacle. The Bishop himself feels that he wronged the church and his congregation and feels his punishment should be his resignation. Honestly, its nice to see someone in a position of power taking the appropriate action and stepping down after admitting to a wrong doing. So many people in positions of power abuse their influence to remain where they are creating a bad example that is then repeated over and over. If the Bishop feels this is his duty, so be it.
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Sunday, October 03 2010
Sunday morning Bishop Steven Arnold,
pastor of the 6,700 member Saint Mark Baptist Church,
resigned. He asked the congregation for forgiveness.
Members say he did use the word 'indiscretion' as part
of the reason he was relinquishing leadership of the church.
The announcement stunned the congregation, leading many people to shriek
and others to cry. Arnold has been pastor of Saint Mark
since 1989 and has helped grow that faith
community from the 300 members it had back then.
He told the faithful this would be a time for fasting and
that the next three days would be tough.
This announcement comes just days before Saint Mark is
set to host an "Impact conference."
Arnold is a board member for the Bank of the Ozarks,
Baptist Health System and Philander Smith College.
Bishop Eddie Long Agrees To Settle Out Of Court With His Male Lovers
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Bishop Eddie Long has agreed to settle out of court with the four men that accused of him of sexual coercion.
As previously reported, the New Birth Missionary Baptist church leader was named as a defendant in four separate lawsuits by men who claimed he lavished them with money and gifts and coerced them into having sexual relations.
Now months after the scandal unfolded, the Bishop is said to be preparing to settle with his accusers outside of court therefore avoiding a highly publicized trial.
The Bishop and his accusers will have a closed-door mediation and the final settlements will likely be kept secret.
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Bishop Eddie Long, facing a string of legal problems, may not speak at The Stand Campaign, a popular religious rally that draws tens of thousands and is set for Saturday at the Georgia Dome
Cory "CoCo Brother" Condrey, a radio show host and organizer of the event, said he recently talked with Long for about an hour by phone. He said Long told him that "if I'm going to be a distraction and stop people from coming into the kingdom of God, it might be best if I'm not there."
Condrey said Long was scheduled to be a speaker on Saturday, but as of Tuesday he wasn't sure if he will speak or attend without speaking.
Art Franklin, a spokesman for Long, said in a statement that the bishop has "supported Stand from its inception and is looking forward to being in attendance for the Stand Campaign at the Georgia Dome this coming weekend."
Condrey said he organized The Stand in 2007 and the first rally was held at New Birth Missionary Baptist, Long's DeKalb County megachurch. He still has much support from his congregation. Recently a South Carolina minister held a rally at the State Capitol demanding that Long step down, but Long's spokesman said he has "absolutely no plans" of doing so. He added, however, that "during the upcoming holiday season Bishop Long is planning to take some time to rest. He and his family will spend this time to refresh themselves. Although he will rest from time to time over a period of a few weeks, Bishop Long will remain engaged with the church, the staff, the board and the members of New Birth. Bishop Long is not stepping down nor stepping aside."
(The Illuminati built New Birth church for Eddie Long and the church members has no say in the outcome of Eddie Long. All the members can do is to follow their pastor and be like him. Their spiritual growth will go no higher than their pastor and the Illuminati cabal that he represent. Eddie Long will be at New Birth as long as the Illuminati want him there. Stand is an Illuminati front design to promote Black religious Illuminati agents and improve their standing in the Black community. Its ironic that most of the Black Bishops and preachers that the Illuminati promote has questionable sexual orientation and promote a negative image to the black youth. Why is it the the illuminati is always trying to portray the Black man as a sexual deviant, gay or bisexual?)
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Bishop Eddie Long Church Followers Petition to Get Him Off the Pulpit!
October 21, 2010
There is a growing group of New Birth Missionary Church members who want to see him step down, at least until the allegations are dealt with.
Apparently, the church members found out about Long's sex abuse allegations with the rest of the world. His lack of keeping the members in the loop also occurred when the controversial billboard of Long went up without the consent of the church. Long's billboard said, "Love like him, Live Like Him, Lead Like Him," along with a gigantic picture of Long.It sounds as if Bishop Long has created a world for himself where he calls the shots, and the Board of Directors of the New Birth Church will do anything he says. They were the ones who OK'd the billboard and the money to erect it.
According to the San Diego News article, the members of the board are "a meaningless group of folks who will rubber stamp anything Bishop Long tells them to." The board consists of close friends and family members of the Bishop. This could not be better for Long when wanting to push something like this "pro-Long" billboard up.
Another problem that the church members who are circulating the petition have is Long's lack of addressing the allegations definitively. Bishop Long's address to the church was "vague, unsatisfactory, and lacking specific information in talking about the allegations levied against him," and has many people in the church disturbed, according to the San Diego County News.
The Illuminati built and controls Eddie Long and the church. He is a Bishop and is above the normal standards that governs regular ministers. Long has impunity
By Iyanla Vanzant
Eddie Long says church is still standing faithful (but are they faithful to God)
Atlanta Journal-Constitution - Oct 19
Second of all I am long time resident of alexandria too almost 50 years I joined St. John in the early 70's and no I am not mad I am very dissappointed in a man that called his self a Pastor and steals and treats elderly people so cruled thas what I have a problem with and I know the legal and law I know the bi-laws I have a whole lot of money in that church and anyway the building cannot be sold its Histroical so know whats going on then goin on hear say you don't need to respond.